Saturday, February 08, 2003

STAKKER: Eurotechno CD (REPH 129 CD). "Rephlex presents the first
ever release of the soundtrack of the video Eurotechno from 1989.
Hailed as a visionary landmark in dance music culture this mini-album
is must for everybody into Acid Techno magic. The man behind the
music is Brian Dougans who is most famous as half of the duo Future
Sound Of London, but early recognition came for him with the European
and UK hit single 'Stakker Humanoid', under the name Humanoid in
1988. Around the same time, he teamed up with the groundbreaking
video artist Mark McClean aka Stakker, after meeting at Salford
College. Mark built a video suite around a Fairlight Graphics box;
Brian found a Roland TB303 (the machine responsible for the squelchy
acid noise) in the basement of his college and began using it,
creating sketches similar to those he was hearing emerge in
Manchester at the beginnings of the Acid House scene. Their synergy
was unique and extremely exciting, and the partnership culminated in
the creative masterpiece Eurotechno, released on Virgin's Videola
label. This video was the first time the emerging bedroom electronics
scene expanded into the visual medium. It was essentially one of the
first commercial V.J tools, showing just how much could be done by
bedroom programmers. When the video was released, Rephlex were still
in school uniforms and living in Cornwall, but it was one of the main
things that inspired us to set up a label. For us this is the
fulfilment of a long-term dream; to make the soundtrack of this
visionary film available for the first time on CD and Vinyl. The
album was painstakingly tracked down and mastered direct from the
original master tapes of the film. It captures the audio overload of
the incredible music in all its intricate, precise detail. The
release of this soundtrack isn't an exercise in nostalgia, or a cash
in on all things 'old school'. We are delighted to release this
music, as we genuinely feel it sounds as fresh, exciting and
unsurpassable at this time as any other, and for this reason it needs
to be listened to and enjoyed rather than forgotten."
posted by Mess Noone , 11:01 PM Þ 

but who cares whether they exist or not?

We care because you dont.
We care because you do.
You care because we do.
I care because you cant.
We care so you dont have to.
Who cares? We care!
I care, you care we all care.
When in doubt, care.
posted by Irdial , 7:06 PM Þ 

Oh, I always watch MTV. I mean when I say watch I mean have it on in the background whilst I tootle about being weird. I like groovy pop music as well as any other music. I just like it to look and sound like it's made in 2003 rather than 1973 I suppose. 9/10 I don;t care about the strokes, but it was late at night when I blogged that and I was feeling alone in a world of retro-RAWK and was afraid I'd grow my hair all long or something.
posted by captain davros , 6:20 PM Þ 

Carthag: dude, i am so fucked
Carthag: well, not really
Carthag: but
Carthag: hehe shit
Carthag: I met this polish girl at roskilde festival
Carthag: and told her she could download mp3s from me if she wanted
Jello: and the ending with that girl went wild?
Carthag: and i just saw she browsed through a folder i got from a friend of bd & i, long ago
Carthag: called "Marschmusik Waffen SS"
Carthag: now she thinks im a total nazi
Carthag: and did i mention she's from poland?
Carthag: goddamn
Jello: heh!...explain her you have a weird friend
Carthag: hehehe

As a side note, I like that song, by the strokes, Someday, I think it's pretty good. I don't really like their other songs though. I should post here more often. I will have more time in one week when I will once again be a free man! Hooray!
posted by Mikkel , 6:12 PM Þ 

I've always found polls very silly. Though brainwashed is a cool site, and I'm glad Coil got some recognition, that one is filled with cynical thoughts and whinings (and contradictions, which somehow make it more "real").
What I say to pollsters: People like different things. Get over it and stop trying to categorize everything. What is the point of polls - you cannot define a specific list of things if everyone's set of opinions is different.

The Hives/The Strokes/The White Stripes/The Vines exist because people like to "rock out" and break things and have fun - regardless of whether the bands are ripoffs of 30-year-old ideas. Some bands exist for artistic expression, and some exist because people like to have brainless fun. I'm more of a fan of artistic expression (and yes, having fun can mix in with that), and I don't really like any of the aforementioned bands, but who cares whether they exist or not?
Why waste your time caring about something like that? It's pointless! Let them exist, go on being concerned about what you should be concerned about - what you like, not what you hate.
Also: Why were you watching MTV? :x
posted by Barrie , 5:37 PM Þ 

Read this Poll.
posted by Irdial , 10:09 AM Þ 

Why do the $band exist?

You went first.

Its my turn now.

I hope you enjoy it!


Why do The Hives exist?
posted by Irdial , 9:17 AM Þ 

I am watching MTV.
The Strokes are on.
I have no idea why this band exist.
Someone help me please...
posted by captain davros , 12:56 AM Þ 
Friday, February 07, 2003

Tatu are a far out band.
posted by captain davros , 10:51 PM Þ 

In 1999, Walid Raad established The Atlas Group as an imaginary foundation to research and document the contemporary history of Lebanon. The foundation's primary project over the past few years is titled The Dead Weight of a Quarrel Hangs.

With this project, the foundation's aim is to locate, preserve, study and assist in the production of audio, visual, literary and other artifacts that shed light on some of the unexamined dimensions of the Lebanese civil wars of 1975 to 1991. In this endeavor, The Atlas Group has found/produced several documents including notebooks, films, videotapes and photographs. The Atlas Group documents are organized and preserved in The Atlas Group Archive, and are made available for exhibition in community centers, festivals, galleries, museums, theaters, and schools. Interested scholars, community organizers, editors, curators and others should contact Walid Raad. The Atlas Group also disseminates information about itself, its archive and works via a presentation titled The Loudest Muttering Is Over: Case Studies from The Atlas Group Archive.

here is a sample record:

From the Fadl Fakhouri Archive.

Work Titles:
Miraculous Beginnings
No, Illness Is Neither Here Nor There

By: Dr. Fadl Fakhouri

From 1975 until 1991, Dr. Fadl Fakhouri was in the habit of carrying two 8mm film cameras  wherever he went. With one camera he exposed a frame of film every time he thought the civil wars had come to an end. With the other camera he exposed a frame of film every time he came across the sign of a doctor or dentist's office. Dr. Fakhouri titled the two rolls of film, Miraculous Beginnings and No, Illness Is Neither Here Nor There.
posted by Josh Carr , 7:09 PM Þ 

From NTK:

website explains, "in association with SchlumbergerSema, is
focusing on how new media technology is used to make a
difference in public life". For a little clarification of what
they have in mind here, you might recall the name of the
sponsor, SchlumbergerSema, from our "So, who is in favour of
ID cards?" musings last month, when they were enthusiastically
backing a one-day conference on the subject of "what the
next steps should be towards the possible implementation of an
Entitlement Card". Schlumberger also "sponsored" this week's
remarkable finding that "Four out of five UK citizens are in
favour of the introduction of entitlement cards, including the
use of biometrics", according to a survey which they paid for.
SchlumbergerSema make the Icitizen(TM) smart ID card (to be
issued to 11 million Belgian citizens over the next 5 years),
while their sister company, Schlumberger Oilfield Services,
supply "Technology services and solutions for the petroleum
industry". It's not quite "The UK Vegetarian Awards, brought
to you in association with McDonalds". But it's pretty close.
- themes of "innovation, efficiency and accessability" [sic],,t269-s2129590,00.html
- 50% of sci-fi fans favour "iris recognition"
- scroll down to "Entitlement Cards Conference"
- /.ers post the usual unsubstantiated conspiracy theories

Voice on the last link sound familiar?!?! :]
posted by Irdial , 6:34 PM Þ 

YES! Conlon Nancarrow is absolutely amazing! It is the first "computer" or "MIDI" or "programming" music, made without a computer at all. But with handmade player piano rolls!!! The music sounds so strangely fresh today. Well worth searching out.
posted by Josh Carr , 5:45 PM Þ 
posted by Claus Eggers , 5:15 PM Þ 
posted by Mess Noone , 2:41 PM Þ 

Conlon Nancarrow. Amazing.
posted by Mess Noone , 1:50 PM Þ 

Poor Ted Turner is down to his last 1.85 billion dollars! Boo hoo!
posted by Alun , 12:25 PM Þ 

My government is a shambles made up of liars and plagiarists, my prime minister is an embarassment... Taunted with being "Mr Vice-President" and "the right honourable member for Texas North"[on a BBC Newsnight special with a public audience asking questions]. Blair was also floored twice in a minute by Jeremy Paxman's questioning.

On the bright side, Bowling for Columbine gets some recognition. Go see it!
posted by Alun , 11:31 AM Þ 
posted by Irdial , 11:30 AM Þ 

UK Govt. Iraq dossier was the wholesale plagarized work of a student!
posted by Irdial , 11:27 AM Þ 
posted by Irdial , 8:23 AM Þ 

Strange Artifacts -- The Baghdad Battery.
posted by slip , 8:03 AM Þ 

more miscellaneous stuff on a week of blogs:

Argh valentines! I try to ignore this "holiday." I have no girlfriend or lover and I am close to practically no one. I realize this is my fault but I would rather not have it shoved in my face and remind me that I'm one sad lonely anti-social bastard. I think the last time I got a good valentine was in early high school, though. It was nice.

I agree with akin's argument on marching. I have seen several marches and they have never done a thing other than make the newspapers put up photos of angry youth with placards. The message they send is actually quiet, and their effect is muted. Now is not the time for quiet, muted messages. Akin's general strike is a good example.
The student population in my town alone - 30000 at the university - is quite large. These populations have an incredible amount of power but due to apathy and lack of organization rarely ever do anything about it. The youth population can make governments incredibly nervous. Paris riots of 1968 were good examples of a student body exploding all over the place like a baked potato in a microwave.

I am heroic couplets; most precise
And fond of order. Planned and structured. Nice.
I know, of course, just what I want; I know,
As well, what I will do to make it so.
This doesn't mean that I attempt to shun
Excitement, entertainment, pleasure, fun;
But they must keep their place, like all the rest;
They might be good, but ordered life is best.
What Poetry Form Are You?

Joy Division: at first I thought the title of "Unknown Pleasures" referred to some sort of dark, perverted, or twisted passion. But now having run the album through my head many times, it is far far more simpler than that. They are the pleasures of everyday life... of a "normal man." The pleasures of love, interconnectedness, joy, and simple wonder that those who have shut themself off miss - and those people need a guide to show them what they have been missing. It is very melancholy but in a completely sincere way, and the fact that I can completely relate to the feeling saddens me. Where the hell have I been?

Why do I believe in UFOs? Why the hell not? Look at the universe. Earth could not possibly be just a completely unique blip. It would be foolish, stupid, and childish to assume that.

Brian Eno said: Too often, the U.S. presents the "American way" as the only way, insisting on its kind of free-market Darwinism as the only acceptable "model of human progress." But isn't civilization what happens when people stop behaving as if they're trapped in a ruthless Darwinian struggle and start thinking about communities and shared futures?

Whoa, that's fucking intense. I never thought of it that way but it's a totally plausible argument. I think that is a pretty important statement.
posted by Barrie , 8:01 AM Þ 

this isn't cool; it's scary.
Thursday, February 06, 2003


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posted by Claus Eggers , 6:50 PM Þ 

Valentine's Day. Lots of for and against on other blogs and livejournals.

What do other Blogdialians do?

I always send one to my girlfriend. Usually totally obviously anonymous! Before my current GF I always sent one to at least one person - I like to believe in one day a year when you can just say "I love/fancy/desire you" and really go for it.

One of the best ones I ever got was when I was at art school and found a pot of play-doh on my desk. I opened it and it was shaped into a heart. That year I also got a custom etching from a different person.

Last year my girlfriend arranged for a taxi to deliver a special balloon to my house. Meanwhile my sister was on a covert mission to my girlfriend's work with a rose.

In 1999 & 2000 I got f**k all and was v.depressed.
posted by captain davros , 6:22 PM Þ 
posted by Claus Eggers , 6:16 PM Þ 

Ultimate typing tutor?
posted by Irdial , 3:20 PM Þ 

sues state of Florida because they wont issue her an ID with her veil!
posted by Irdial , 1:22 PM Þ 

Here are the pages you need.
posted by Irdial , 12:30 PM Þ 

Thanks for the UFO stuff. Do you believe in the newly declared need for secrecy referred to in a recent post? Or would openness put some perspective into peoples lives and shake up selfish interests, including nationalism and organized religion? I don't know but I'd hope for the latter.

There are people, religious people, who do not believe that man has flown into space. These are the sorts of people who will never take any new perspective into their lives. They are also the people who use any new tool they can find to kill and enforce thier upside-down circus laws.

If the truth about UFOs is let out (dont show them the blues) nothing will change. What will happen, is that military scientists everywhere will start trying to get a hold of this technology. They will peel thier eyes to the sky, and probably shoot some down, and then try and reverse engineer what they find. Basically, the reverse engineering effort will accelerate rapidly, which cant be a good thing.

Did you know (I didnt before reading the MJ12 docs) that fiber optic cable was described, in detail, in 1947?

I quote, from the MJ12 docs:
"'Flight instruments and controls are activated by optical wave guide fibers, similar to glass rods except they are flexible and have a plastic cladding wrap. All functions may be operated by touch sensitive or texture sensing stimuli. Instruments are covered by plastic plate that seem to be color coded.'

The patent for fiber optics was filed in 1957; imagine what other very simple devices and methods, constructable from materials that we already know how to control with finesse, can be made once we understand what the original salvaged objects are for...the mind boggles.

There is another more subtle reason why that perhaps, this should be kept secret: the Ego of man.

The Ego of man is a fragile thing. To be suddenly have it ddemonstrated that there are other technological species running circles around us in every way - socially, technically, biologically - would constitue a devastating blow to the collective Ego. The will of man to do the hard work of science would be sapped; why bother spending 20 years in the lab, when we can leap forward simply by becoming the students of these other species? Man made progress, and accumulation of science would surely be destroyed, certainly untill our integration with the advanced science was complete.

Proof that this would happen is in the way that the reverse engineering efforts have gone on. Trillions of dollars has been spent on this (I should say, it must be in the trillions of dollars), when that money could have been spent on man sourced innovation. Who could resist such a temptation? No one, especially if it was believed that the USSR might also have downed craft. Did you know that the USSR mounted a huge man powered surveillance operation, specifically to spot UFOs? Evey member of the Army was told keep a look out, and report any anomalous aircraft.

If they had shot one down, and were trying to reverse engineer it, it would have been of vital importance to be first to crack the propulsion and other systems.

...just in case...
posted by Irdial , 12:25 PM Þ 

It is only when there is public revolt, (Poll Tax Riots) that governments sit up and pay attention. Why trust one demonstration and not another?

It isnt a question of "trusging one demonstration and not another". Only a fool goes into the street to get his head bashed in when there is a more powerful way to get what you want.

If 500,000 people are really going to march on Saturday, we can guess that there are at least 2,000,000 people who would like to march but cant for one reason or another.

Imagine if all these people stayed at home for three working days. And I mean LITERALLY did not leave thier homes.

Imagine if more than that number stayed at home.

The impact would be enormous. Empty streets are the most frightening thing business people (governments) can imagine.

Do you believe the demonstration was responsible for removal of the Poll Tax, or that it provoked debate on the subject and demonstrated its hideous unfairness and unpopularity with the masses, which those in power finally took note of...?

The demonstration was not responsible, for sure. The shocking violence certainly drove the point home. Using the "demonstrations work" logic, hunting can not now be banned, since the demonstration against it was the biggest single demonstration in the history of the UK.

One thing is for certain; in the case of demonstrations against war, not a single one has ever stopped war. It is demonstrably (!) pointless.

The economic disruption of the emptying of every street in the UK would frighten the bejeezuz out of HMG. They would not DARE go to war after such a dangerous display of discontent.
posted by Irdial , 12:02 PM Þ 

That UFO link may be for clicking on, but the links off it aren't! Where else is that information? The links are bright yellow too - kr8z33!!!
posted by captain davros , 10:15 AM Þ 

The North Korea statement is hilarious. That is, I hope they are pointing out exactly the hypocritical nature of the US war machine by stating that they will strike first to protect themselves against a possible threat! Kim Jong-il: not just jumpsuits and quiffs! Oh, America, dumbest nation on earth, when will you learn?

Demonstrating: I was on the Poll Tax March which became a riot. It was not public revolt, but a reaction to oppression on the day and the majority of people starting the march didn't riot. Most of the march was finished before the police tried to move people sitting near Downing Street, I think.
It is only when there is public revolt, (Poll Tax Riots) that governments sit up and pay attention. Why trust one demonstration and not another? Do you believe the demonstration was responsible for removal of the Poll Tax, or that it provoked debate on the subject and demonstrated its hideous unfairness and unpopularity with the masses, which those in power finally took note of...?

I think demonstrations have shown their worth over the years. It may not be immediate, but it gets the message across. Think about it, about 500,000 people gathered to make a point. The Poll Tax march had 100,000. Something on this scale is a rare event and forces people to take note. If you can persuade even 50,000 people to go on strike for a cause that has no direct link to their daily lives then all credit to you!

If there is no action to that, other than march in the street and write letters, then I am afriaid its "bombs away" again. Tell Amnesty International that letter writing is ineffective.

Im not up on my Ghandi history, but Argh! When I'm giving lectures to my peers and the 'bumbling old professor' down the front sticks his hand up and says 'I don't know much about macrophages, but...' you know it's the worst (most pertinent) question you'll face! Anyway, even Ghandi started somewhere. I don't know much about him either, but I don't think mass strikes were his first move.

As a side-note, someone clever said "democracy is when three wolves and a sheep vote about whats for dinner."
Usually the sheep are in the majority, but don't bother to vote or else they vote for roast lamb. STOOPID. Michael Moore made a good point that if women only voted for women they would be the leaders of the government. Its extendable to any group that wishes to have its policies upheld. Why do most people vote for a major party which doesn't even understand their views? Why do we go on electing a majority of upper-middle class business-oriented self-serving MEN to power? Democracy is undervalued and misunderstood by the general public, and could completely change the nation at the next election if votes were used properly. Thus, the quote above is perfectly demonstrative of good democracy: vote for your interests!

Thanks for the UFO stuff. Do you believe in the newly declared need for secrecy referred to in a recent post? Or would openness put some perspective into peoples lives and shake up selfish interests, including nationalism and organized religion? I don't know but I'd hope for the latter.

Uh-oh! You know who gets a leg-up from you-know-what!
posted by Alun , 10:09 AM Þ 

This man is Totally NUTZ!
posted by Irdial , 8:09 AM Þ 

Did anyone watch the security council meeting yesterday?

They are going to have to do MUCH better than that to convince anyone with a single working brain cell that they are justified in going to "war".

Both the Iraqi ambassador and subsequently the Iraqi information minister, comprehensively DEMOLISHED Powell. What a joke!

Only shame can be heaped on Spain, whose addition to the statements was.....shameful.

In other news Korea will strike first.

If you had the pleasure of watching Holidays in the Axis of Evil, you will understand perfectly why this sort of talk is no surprise at all. After having watched people solemnly placing flowers at the feet of the golden statue of TGL (The Great Leader), you would have a perfect picture of the mentality....awesome!
posted by Irdial , 7:36 AM Þ 
Wednesday, February 05, 2003

There are no current links between the Iraqi regime and the al-Qaeda network, according to an official British intelligence report seen by BBC News.

The classified document, written by defence intelligence staff three weeks ago, says there has been contact between the two in the past.

But it assessed that any fledgling relationship foundered due to mistrust and incompatible ideologies.

That conclusion flatly contradicts one of the main charges laid against Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein by the United States and Britain - that he has cultivated contacts with the group blamed for the 11 September attacks.

The report emerges even as Washington was calling Saddam a liar for denying, in a television interview with former Labour MP and minister Tony Benn, that he had any links to al-Qaeda.

Denying any connection with al-Qaeda, Saddam Hussein said: "If we had a relationship with al-Qaeda and we believed in that relationship, we wouldn't be ashamed to admit it."
posted by chriszanf , 11:04 PM Þ 

The ballad, I; I shun the world,
   Its bustle and its noise,
Its busy hasty rushing crowds
   And bright consumer toys.

Indeed, I sometimes like the old
   Because it's not the new;
And if you think that's strange or wrong,
   I might not much like you.
What Poetry Form Are You?
posted by chriszanf , 11:00 PM Þ 

Some time ago, someone here at Blogdial wrote about a dream with you in Akin, and I though "Well, aint that nerdy?"
Okay, now I am a nerd. Akin, you were in my dream and dont even know what you look like, but you we there doing nothing, you were just there. Wierd.

Could Irdial be the Al Qaeda in the musicindustry?
And if so is Akin the Osama Bin Laden?

I'm terza rima, and I talk and smile.
Where others lock their rhymes and thoughts away
I let mine out, and chatter all the while.

I'm rarely on my own - a wasted day
Is any day that's spent without a friend,
With nothing much to do or hear or say.

I like to be with people, and depend
On company for being entertained;
Which seems a good solution, in the end.
What Poetry Form Are You?

How pink!


posted by Alison , 10:42 PM Þ 

Tight control of information and the propagation of ignorance. It seems to me that the United States government is guilty of both at the moment. And, of course, not for the first time.
posted by Mess Noone , 8:15 PM Þ 

A seperate matter: What evidence convinced you that UFOs exist?

In particular, the excellent military radar visual cases that I have read, the strong photographic evidence that I have seen and the hundreds of witness statements that I have read.

Anyone who has seen the evidence will be convinced that some UFOs are the space craft of non humans.

Once one has looked at the evidence, and one thinks that UFOs are NOT what we think they are ("we" being the proponents of the ETH), it is up to that person to say what they are, if they think that they are not ET controlled craft.

That link is to click on!
posted by Irdial , 8:01 PM Þ 

Courtesy of Jason:

As a side-note, someone clever said "democracy is when three wolves and a sheep vote about whats for dinner."
posted by Mikkel , 7:36 PM Þ 

How do you know it's useless?

Only by the measure of the (lack of) effectiveness of the other marches.

What is 'of use'?

Anything that will stop the war. Anything that will not directly stop the war is useless.

Other than generating personal feelings of righteousness in participants....

I have no problem with that. Im just saying that if these protesters want to stop the war, they could do something more effective.

Marching will, at least, allow 500,000 people to democratically vent their opposition to events being planned in their name.

"Democracy" is very good at letting people vent while the bad stuff goes on ad-infinitum. Anyone who is thinking clearly knows that these demonstrations are simply pacifying the public, so that they dont do something really effective to stop their governments doing things they dont want them to do.

Further, it will disseminate the anti-war message to anyone who sees the march on TV

Always with a spin. And this will stop nothing. And there are better, more efficient ways to get the clear, un spun message to the millions, as I gave examples of.

and, hopefully, spark a bit more of a debate on how the government is bypassing parliament and the people.

Debate is meaningless. The result is the same again and again. It is clear that these debates are used only to pacify , and are not actually listened to. It is only when there is public revolt, (Poll Tax Riots) that governments sit up and pay attention.

At most it might influence people, and maybe some MPs, to support the movement.

but what does "supporting the movement" actually do? What actions are to be taken? If there is no action to that, other than march in the street and write letters, then I am afriaid its "bombs away" again.

It could influence others to demonstrate,

a demonstration to make more people demonstrate?

persuade some kid to take up non-violent protest as a political tool and go on to become the Ghandi of his/her generation....

Im not up on my Ghandi history, but didnt he organize mass strikes? And was that not the reason they won?

You never know. What else could you persuade 500,000 people to do that would be more productive?

But we DO know! marching does nothing. Better that 5 million people went on strike for a week instead of 500,000 marching through a park on a SATURDAY.
posted by Irdial , 6:49 PM Þ 

As far as that hoogerbrugge site is concerned, do check out the newest stuff, too:
posted by Josh Carr , 5:26 PM Þ 

Wild, Akin. Last week I picked up a Träd, Gräs och Stenar record from 1971 called Djungelns Lag. I saw it in my local record store and bought in on a whim. The sounds gently took my skull for a ride, if I may. All the liner photographs are from shows that they played in parks, swedish heads grooving in the grass. They're still around.

Yesterday at work I had a fine time listening to the sounds of the latest Pita record. You could do the same here: But you may want to control how the page looks here first.
posted by Josh Carr , 5:23 PM Þ 
posted by captain davros , 5:04 PM Þ 

To me, it is crystal clear that this is the case; participating in an action that we know to be useless is wrong, especially when we know that the consequence is that people are going to be killed and the remainder subjugated.

How do you know it's useless? What is 'of use'?
Other than generating personal feelings of righteousness in participants....
Marching will, at least, allow 500,000 people to democratically vent their opposition to events being planned in their name. Further, it will disseminate the anti-war message to anyone who sees the march on TV and, hopefully, spark a bit more of a debate on how the government is bypassing parliament and the people.
At most it might influence people, and maybe some MPs, to support the movement. It might tip the balance (if the aftermath of opinion polls, media coverage etc increase their anti-war stance) even as high as Tony Blur to stick to the UN route. It could influence others to demonstrate, persuade some kid to take up non-violent protest as a political tool and go on to become the Ghandi of his/her generation.... You never know.
What else could you persuade 500,000 people to do that would be more productive?

A seperate matter:
What evidence convinced you that UFOs exist?
posted by Alun , 4:20 PM Þ 

Thanks to a good friend, who we will call "K", I got to watch a documentary called "The secret", which is about UFOs.

What was strking about this documentary, which was made very recently, is the attitude of the investigators towards secrecy which has changed markedly from their previous stance of "the public has an absolute right to know everything about UFOs".

Now the message is UFO secrecy is not only necessary, but is for the good of everyone. This is undoubtedly a side effect of 911. They have realized that "out of control" people armed with UFO technology could potentially kill everyone on the earth, with consumate ease. For example; any garage hobbyist can, today, build a powerful rail gun, with simple parts at very small expense. It wouldnt take much to build the equivalent of a Phalanx system based on a rail gun that shoots top loaded ball bearings. Extrapolate this to a technology that is now unknown but what would subsequently become simple technology, provided in a trickle down fashion by the route reverse engineering. In the hands of maniacs (and you KNOW who I am talking about) such a set of basic principles and tools could be utterly devastating.

As a documentary, its construction was pretty standard fare for this subject. The most surprising part was the sea change in attitude of these seasoned investigators, who frankly acted like they had suddenly woken up and were wary of the future.

Astounding and saddening that a single act could change everyone everywhere, so profoundly.

Life on an eggshell; you are living it.
posted by Irdial , 4:01 PM Þ 

People like ta feel dey iz Doing Something.

I can dig' dis here perfectly, but its an illusion, uh "feel good" action, dat don' affect anythin' at all. The "Stop da City" brigade gots partially realized dis here, which iz why dey often destroy da property o' da companies dat dey hate.

Feeling pimp-tight about uh leaking sink wont fix da leak. Something has ta be done, in uh distributed way, dat will fix da problem. Marching will not do dis here, therefore, it iz sensible not ta march, an' instead, do somethin' else.

To me, it iz crystal clear dat dis here iz da case; participating in an action dat we's know ta be useless iz wrong, especially when we's know dat da consequence iz dat peeps iz going ta be ganked an' da remainder subjugated. with muh beeotch

posted by Irdial , 2:32 PM Þ 

It's so annoying that MP3s are blocked by the firewall at my work. I don't intend to sit all day downloading music, but the odd chance to hear something new would be nice. :(
posted by captain davros , 12:58 PM Þ 

People like to feel they are Doing Something.

I can understand this perfectly, but its an illusion, a "feel good" action, that doesnt affect anything at all. The "Stop the City" brigade have partially realized this, which is why they often destroy the property of the companies that they hate.

Feeling good about a leaking sink wont fix the leak. Something has to be done, in a distributed way, that will fix the problem. Marching will not do this, therefore, it is sensible not to march, and instead, do something else.

To me, it is crystal clear that this is the case; participating in an action that we know to be useless is wrong, especially when we know that the consequence is that people are going to be killed and the remainder subjugated.
posted by Irdial , 12:58 PM Þ 
posted by captain davros , 12:54 PM Þ 

Some sad things today:
These Records. I can't afford the property.
The execution. Reasonable doubt? Humanity? Tearful.
British secret service report into Iraq/Al Qaeda. Ignored, at least. Lied about.
Additional: Jack Straw ignores his own secret reports shock.
The bully is shouting again.

On more affirmative action than the march: It's easier to get people to march for 4 hours in the cold than to give up 25 quid each. People like to feel they are Doing Something. I will be there, for what it's worth. If you see someone in a massive bright orange Schott duvet coat, it could be me. The coat makes me look like this:, but it keeps me very warm.

Steve Bell's cartoons have been excellent lately. Today's is no exception. Vive la difference indeed.

Listened to Panasonic for the first time in ages. Superb!
posted by Alun , 9:39 AM Þ 

Have you heard Pärson Sound then?
posted by Mess Noone , 8:55 AM Þ 

Trad Gras Och Stenar
"Last Time"
Mors Mors
1/2 Special Skivor & Trams CD
recorded live 1972

I just heard this; it RULED ME.
posted by Irdial , 8:47 AM Þ 

When I got stuck in Mumbai airport about 7 years ago coming back from India. I spent a few days with 2 Iraqis that were studying in Bangalore university and they had to fly to Istambal and go overland to Bagdad. Im sure Mr Benn would have to do something similar.
posted by chriszanf , 6:56 AM Þ 

John Howard loses no-confidence vote from senate in Australia.

(weird one going on with the non-closure of tags couple of posts down)
posted by chriszanf , 6:52 AM Þ 

the real you.

the real you.
Tuesday, February 04, 2003

THESE Records
Mailing List Update
February 4th 2003

second mailout of the new year.


NOT a selection of clearance items (though to people in the so-called 'property ladder'
that's exactly what it is).
the Freehold on These Records premesis at 112 Brook Drive is up for sale by Auction.

after being tenants of South London's Labour controlled Lambeth Council for over fifteeen
years we have been given under a months notice that the building is up for sale on february
the 18th (with us mentioned as tenants in the auction catalogue).

the sign outside our door say "business not affected", which in real terms means the
new owner will then be our new landlord. our legal position with regards to being able
to stay in Brook Drive is not looking rosy to say the least.

because of a 'mixed usage' loophole (while These Records business occupies the ground
floor, the upper floors are registered as 'domestic' as a member of staff lives there)
we were last year denied any rights through the 'right to buy' scheme (despite being
council tenants for such a long period) as you don't qualify if you run a business from
the premesis.

the most likely future for 112, in keeping with the current trend of property development
in London will be that a purchaser will buy the Freehold in order to:
1. kick us out
2. re-decorate the building very quickly, most likely turning it into several flats
3. sell the 'new' properties at the highest price possible while the vastly inflated
property market still holds out.
4. count the money
5. repeat steps 1-4 somewhere else

These Records is in no financial position to buy the property.
the starting price which has been announced is £150,000.

if anyone out there has any recourse to help, please get in touch, ideally if someone
has the resources to purchase the property and wishes to become our landlord (which
requires an ability to secure a mortgage) please let us know SOON (serious interest
only please, as we have very little time left to do something about this).

in the meantime, perhaps obviously we would say PLEASE buy something from the list,
as we REALLY REALLY need the money right now. even if we can secure another premisis
to move to, it will be a costly and disruptive business to re-locate.
e-mail us at with any constructive ideas.

watch this space...
posted by Irdial , 7:33 PM Þ 

if 500,000 demonstrators each spent the 25 pounds that it would take to participate in this demonstration, and used it somehow to organize the dissemination of information world wide (Twelve Million, Five Hundred Thousand POUNDS) Would that not be a better use of time and effort??

The news always underreports these protests, people get arrested, and waste a whole day doing precisely nothing.

Lets say that they spend that 12,500,000 on buying airplane tickets to Baghdad.

interestingly, its not possible to book a flight to Saddam International Airport (SDA):

estination currently unavailable

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- is unable to sell tickets to one or more of the destinations you have chosen. Please select a different destination. We apologize for the inconvenience.


The following error has occurred with the submission:

British Airways does not currently fly to Baghdad

Also, whatever

Lets say it costs 2000 for a return ticket (return?? heh)

Thats Six Thousand, Two Hundred and fifty people that can be sent over as human(itarian) shields.

For example.

OR you could buy One Hundred and Twenty Five double page spreads in newspapers of the calibre of The New York Times.

Any way that you want to slice it, marching in the streets is pointless. People need to think obliquely, and channel the enormous power of numbers that a well populated protest group can muster for a sensible, high impact world changing strategy.

P.S. i wonder if by doing searches for flights to Iraq if you "ring a bell" somewhere....and for that matter, how did Wedgewood Benn get a flight to Saddam International Airport
posted by Irdial , 6:01 PM Þ 

I know I should be telling you that I'm
A rubai - but perhaps some other time.
It sounds like work, and anyway, it's late -
Unless I sleep, I'll be too tired to rhyme.

Besides, there's plates to clear and cups to clink,
And when that's done I have to sit and think,
Since then it won't be long before I need
To sleep again and eat again and drink.
What Poetry Form Are You?
posted by Claus Eggers , 6:00 PM Þ 

Stop The War march gets go ahead for Hyde Park! After weeks of stupid politicians making stupid excuses. Poor things, worrying about those 500,000 demonstrators slipping on wet grass.

posted by Alun , 4:25 PM Þ 

Free money for all!

College Drinking Deadlines: Letter of intent, 14 March
Full application 14th April 2003
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Applications are welcome from overseas. RFA-AA-03-08
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Tel 001 301 443 2594

Alternative Medicine Deadline: letters of intent 15 March, full application 15 April 2003
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Tel 001 301 402 1030
posted by Alun , 4:19 PM Þ 

"In RIAA vs. Verizon, the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia ruled that anyone suspected of downloading so-called "infringing" files on the Internet -- usually an MP3 of a song -- could be sued. No evidence is required. An accuser fills out a form for a court clerk and the machinery is set in motion."


LA Times
posted by Irdial , 3:20 PM Þ 

I am the sonnet, never quickly thrilled;
Not prone to overstated gushing praise
Nor yet to seething rants and anger, filled
With overstretched opinions to rephrase;
But on the other hand, not fond of fools,
And thus, not fond of people, on the whole;
And holding to the sound and useful rules,
Not those that seek unjustified control.
I'm balanced, measured, sensible (at least,
I think I am, and usually I'm right);
And when more ostentatious types have ceased,
I'm still around, and doing, still, alright.
In short, I'm calm and rational and stable -
Or, well, I am, as much as I am able.
What Poetry Form Are You?
posted by Irdial , 3:01 PM Þ 
posted by Irdial , 2:43 PM Þ 
posted by Mess Noone , 2:14 PM Þ 
posted by Claus Eggers , 1:35 PM Þ
posted by Irdial , 10:37 AM Þ 

Read this and gasp as you watch DalNet die...
posted by Irdial , 10:37 AM Þ 

What happened to the Irdial website?

Also, can anyone recommend Harmonia Mundi CDs (any on the label)?
posted by Mess Noone , 9:53 AM Þ 

Josh, I use winamp for MP3s and XMplay for OGG. I only use XMPlay as I installed it so I could play M03 files, which are totally amazing. They're modules (remember those from the Amiga?) but each sample is compressed with either OGG or MP3, so they're totally tiny. I'm toying with them in my own module choons at the moment.

XMplay is a nice small player, and will do MP3 as well. Plus, it be free, so go and play!

posted by captain davros , 9:38 AM Þ 

Not the first time, and not the last.
Hopes fading for death row Briton
"The [DNA] tests could conclusively prove his innocence, and yet they seem happy to let him die without finding out the truth.
"Every indication is that the Americans are determined to kill this guy," he added
posted by Alun , 9:03 AM Þ 

HOLY SHIT cnn is the most credible news source EVER. Who knew NASA was up to warp drive experiments?!! OMFG.

As for mp3/ogg players I use iTunes (OS X, natch) for most of my things, merely because there is a lack of anything else solid. iTunes is solid but eats up lots of cpu time. I don't like much about it at all really, except the fact that it's solid and plays VBR perfectly (Audion has great trouble reading VBR files).

Bush: "I want one a them bombs thar, hyuk!"
posted by Barrie , 7:09 AM Þ 
Monday, February 03, 2003

posted by Irdial , 11:45 PM Þ 
posted by Irdial , 11:27 PM Þ 

It's a shame what music means.
Saddam Hussains Novel
posted by Alison , 7:07 PM Þ 

80k hosts in 30 mins!
posted by Irdial , 7:05 PM Þ 
posted by Irdial , 6:39 PM Þ 

I wonder what MP3 and OGG players people use on this list. I currently use WinAmp, but would love a change. (The newest version is slow and displays file information horribly, although i do like the fade function. It makes me reach for version 2.75 all the more often. Though it doesn't play OGGs).

Any suggestions?
posted by Josh Carr , 5:33 PM Þ 
posted by Claus Eggers , 1:22 PM Þ 

Someone clever said re ID cards:

"But we need a way to identify people, and if you think that driver's licenses and social security numbers aren't already doing this, you're just closing your eyes to it.

I always love this argument, regardless of what it's applied to. "They're already halfway up your ass, why not just push in all the way?"

If our freedom was simply degenerating and we could never become more free than we are right now, those of us that weren't slaves or indentured servants would be regularly appearing in front of government panels to assert that we are not and never have been communist sympathizers."
posted by Irdial , 12:20 PM Þ 

As a historical aside, the last UK ID cards were abandoned in 1953. At the time the Lord High Chief Justice stated that "it is obvious that the police now, as a matter of routine, demand the production of national registration identity cards whenever they stop or interrogate a motorist for any cause....This Act was passed for security purposes and not for the purposes for which, apparently it is now sought to be used...."
posted by Irdial , 9:44 AM Þ 

Yes, Red Deer... been through it many times. It's about 1.5 hours directly south of where I am. Nice place, not too big, not too small.

It's time for another week of school. Are *YOU* ready?!
posted by Barrie , 4:23 AM Þ 
Sunday, February 02, 2003

Hey, Barreh, I was looking at a map and saw a town called Red Deer in Alberta - have you ever been there? Sounds good.

When I was in Washington State in the US last I drove through Beaver, which was brief if nothing else.
posted by captain davros , 10:23 PM Þ 

posted by Irdial , 7:50 PM Þ 
posted by Mikkel , 7:10 PM Þ 

"Under Microsoft's new program, governments may visit Microsoft's campus, see the millions of lines of source code that make up Windows, run analysis tools on the source code and build versions of Windows for themselves from the raw materials. Under the program, governments will be able to see source code for Windows 2000, XP, Server 2003 and CE."

There are some problems with this.

First of all, there arent enought people looking at the windoze source to properly assess the security issues. All the governments in the world who have signed up for this will not, even if they combined forces, have enough skilled programmers to audit the source of all the three current versions of windoze.

Secondly, the errors that they might be able to find would give these governments an advantage over the millions of windoze users world wide. It could potentially give clandestine remote access to any windoze user by using undisclosed vulnerabilities discovered in the source.

Those two might be mutually exclusive, but if either of them is true, its a bad thing. What no one seems to be asking is, why spend resources sending one dude to look at buggy windoze code when you can use free software that is audited by many thousands of developers for nothing?

It doesnt make any centz!
posted by Irdial , 3:55 PM Þ 

There was a cartoon in the newspaper yesterday. It had the protagonist asking Anders Fogh Rasmussen (our prime minister and all round argh) if he really grew up as a kid wanting to make government with the extreme right and help start a war. Anders sits for a bit, then hiccups.
posted by Mikkel , 1:13 PM Þ 

We're back. Hello again. :-)
posted by Mess Noone , 10:26 AM Þ 
posted by Barrie , 9:20 AM Þ 
posted by chriszanf , 12:09 AM Þ 

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